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Online dating tips and relationship advice from Dr. Neder...
"The
Test" and "The Challenge"
Dennis,
I read your brief
article about "The Test" with much interest. I've
always known this was going on - at least at a subconscious
level initially - but have never seemed to deal with it very
well. Although I'm getting better with age and maturity, there
was a time when I would get rather indignant about the very
idea of being tested in the first place - never mind the passing
or the failing. So I'm interested in your books, Being a Man
in a Women's World I & II and have a couple of questions
for you.
Do these books
cover "The Test"?
Having not read
volume I yet, do I need it? Or can I just get volume II? In
other words, is volume II strictly new material, and if it is,
does it cover The Test?
Are there any other
books by you or by other authors that cover this topic?
I want to read as much as I can about this.
Finally and most
importantly, I've become very interested in applying my own
Tests to help me determine a woman's character. Do you know
of any books, articles, etc. that cover the topic from this
angle?
Thanks!
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Hello!
Ah, yes, "The
Test". It's such an insidious feminine tool that I devoted
an entire chapter to it in my book, "Being a Man in a Woman's
World". The new book picks up (on all subjects - and quite
a few more) where the first one left off. In the new book I
also talk about "Mini-Tests" and the "Test by
Proxy". Thus, if you're going to read the second book (I
highly recommend it of course), you should definitely read the
first before it.
As far as I know,
I'm the only author that has discovered - and talks about -
The Test. However, a large number of talk show hosts and writers
around the country actually use my book and discuss The Test
from it.
I actually talk
about men using The Test in a few cases, but frankly, it's not
a very good idea - at least as women use it. When men use The
Test, they come off as insecure - something you don't want.
On the other hand, there IS a way for men to Test. Let me tell
you about it.
The version of
The Test that men can use successfully is actually called "Challenge".
A number of authors talk about this technique, but not in the
way that I do. Here's what you want to do with Challenge:
A man uses Challenge
to change his relative position with a woman. Consider this:
most men come almost from a begging standpoint when they deal
with women. For instance, they chase her trying to get her to
go out with them, then they bring flowers trying to buy her,
they then take her out to an expensive restaurant, and spend
the entire evening trying to entertain her - all in the hopes
of getting a good night kiss.
Challenge does
the exact opposite. One of the best ways to start Challenge
is to ask your date: "So, what do you bring to a relationship?"
This seems like
an odd - almost harsh - question to ask so early, but it is
specifically designed to do one thing: take you out of the "seller
position" and move you into the "buyer position".
In other words, rather than trying to convince your date that
she should see you again, and should kiss you, sleep with you,
etc., etc., you are now asking her why YOU should do these things
with HER!
Yes, I know what
you're thinking - of course you want these things. Let me tell
you something: so does she! However, women initially enter the
dating game from the buyer's position. Challenge turns this
on it's head.
Here's another
form of Challenge that I teach my students: tell her that you're
not going to kiss her unless she proves to you that she's worthy
of it. Ouch! You can even say, "I've kissed so many women
that don't know how to kiss properly that I've decided I'm not
going to waste them on just anyone." Yet another form of
this is: "Oh, you're from Canada - that's too bad! I've
never met a Canadian that could kiss very well!" [or wherever
- you get the point]
Let me ask you
something: do you really think that any woman doesn't think
she's the world's greatest kisser? Of course she does! It's
just like ever man thinks that he's the world's best driver!
The point of this is to place her squarely in the position of
proving herself to you - and what better thing to have proven
then whether she can kiss well or not?
So, when you think
about The Test - remember that it's a feminine thing. The male
equivalent is The Challenge.
Best regards...
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